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Started by qdideas · 9 months ago
4 years ago
4 years ago
Unfortunately, in most cases, its not really possible to use your onboard video card and an external card. Usualy motherboards that have onboard video give you the option of either the Onboard video or a PCI or AGP add-on video card, not both.
However, you would be able to do this if you have two add-on video cards.
1 PCI Slot video card and 1 AGP video card.
Also, check in the BIOS Settings of your motherboard, to see if there's an option like an Enable Onboard and PCI or something.
Hope that helps!
peace
seamonkey420
ps I'd just reccommend buying a Geforce 4 or Radeon 9600 with DVI and VGA outputs (then get the DVI to VGA adapter), cost probably around $60 or so (depending on how good of geforce 4/radeon you want)
Cheap but still perform...
4 years ago
http://www.tech-recipes.com/windows_tips533.html
4 years ago
My poor little noggen is mush from another round of "How do I get this crap to work?".
Basic problem... I have two seperate video cards for (as SeaMonkey describes) my cant-live-without-it dual monitor setup. One is the ATI All-In-Wonder 8500 DV (in the agp slot) and the other is the Nvidia GeForce 2 MX/MX 400 (in the pci slot). YES, I NOW KNOW THAT VIDEO CARDS FROM THE SAME COMPANY IS SUGGESTED!
I have had this setup for about two years and it has done reasonobly well for me but it has never quite worked 'perfect'. I had to live with limitations such as having to disable control panels (just using the driver on one card or the other instead of using the driver and the mfg's software). Somehow Ive always been able to come up with ways to use each mfg's most recent drivers and software work despite the fact that each card obviously hates the other! It has been getting more difficult with each new driver release to bring peace to my 'puter.
Two weeks ago I was bored and started to play around. Bad idea. See, with the ATI card in the AGP slot it takes seniority over the Nvidia card and I figure it is quite important to ensure that the ATI Control Panel software is working properly (especially since I need the Open GL and Direct 3D stuff to work with graphics programs like 3D Studio Max (http://www.discreet.com/) and Avid Xpress (http://avid.com/products/xpress/). Now, I just cant get this to work.
Heres some info about my system:
AMD Athlon XP 2400+ processor (runs about 1.99 GHz)
512 MB DDR Ram
AGP Video: ATI All-In-Wonder 8500 DV
Driver pkg installed: wxp-w2k-catalyst-8-03-040610a-016126c
Other ATI software: mmc-9-1-0-0 (and the dao-mdac)
PCI Video: Nvidia GeForce 2 MX/MX 400
Driver pkg installed: 61.77, 07/15/2004
Windows XP Professional with sp-1 and all updates installed
UltraMon version 2.4.21.0 installed
I depend on this system (which I built myself *gloat gloat*) everyday as an indendant video producer. It is my livelyhood. Right now I cannot afford a new video card so please dont suggest it (unless you would want to trade my Nvidia pci card for your ATI pci card). A heart felt thank you along with a steady stream of butt-kisses shall be your reward for any help you can offer me.
IDigPhish
4 years ago
Yea, my buddy had a similar type of problem with his Geforce4 ti4200 and a PCI based TNT Vanta.
When i get home tonight, i'll do some experimenting with my cards (i have two agp ATI Radeons and a few PCI nvidia cards.. and i also run those two programs your using , 3d studio max and avid)
I will post some things to try tonight!
check back for info!!!
4 years ago
sorry about the delay..
here's what i would try (forgot i sold that pci vid card, doh!)..
i would uninstall both the ati and nvidia drivers from the control panel
Then shutdown your pc.
Only leave in the pci vanta, install the nvidia drivers and all, be sure to turn off the icon and the quick resolution feature..
Shutdown, put your agp ati card in.
Install the ati card drives and be sure to set that video card as your primary monitor in Display Properties > Settings.
I would also be sure to disable the taskbar icon and the quick resolution feature.
What i hope will happpen is that since the ati card is installed last, that those open gl and direct3d settings will override your pci card, nvidia ones.. hopefully you'll be able to use both the nvidi and ati control panels in each video cards advanced settings....
let me know what happens!
peace
seamonkey420
4 years ago
<ul id="quote">
Regarding three outputs:
You are absolutely correct, you can connect CRT display (VGA) + DFP display (DVI) + TV via S-video output. The TV display will "clone" the image of onr of the other two display.
Regards,
Saul Kagzi
Customer Care
ATI Technologies, Inc.
http://www.ati.com
</ul>
4 years ago
My poor little noggen is mush from another round of "How do I get this crap to work?".
Basic problem... I have two seperate video cards for (as SeaMonkey describes) my cant-live-without-it dual monitor setup. One is the ATI All-In-Wonder 8500 DV (in the agp slot) and the other is the Nvidia GeForce 2 MX/MX 400 (in the pci slot). YES, I NOW KNOW THAT VIDEO CARDS FROM THE SAME COMPANY IS SUGGESTED!
I have had this setup for about two years and it has done reasonobly well for me but it has never quite worked 'perfect'. I had to live with limitations such as having to disable control panels (just using the driver on one card or the other instead of using the driver and the mfg's software). Somehow Ive always been able to come up with ways to use each mfg's most recent drivers and software work despite the fact that each card obviously hates the other! It has been getting more difficult with each new driver release to bring peace to my 'puter.
Two weeks ago I was bored and started to play around. Bad idea. See, with the ATI card in the AGP slot it takes seniority over the Nvidia card and I figure it is quite important to ensure that the ATI Control Panel software is working properly (especially since I need the Open GL and Direct 3D stuff to work with graphics programs like 3D Studio Max (http://www.discreet.com/) and Avid Xpress (http://avid.com/products/xpress/). Now, I just cant get this to work.
Heres some info about my system:
AMD Athlon XP 2400+ processor (runs about 1.99 GHz)
512 MB DDR Ram
AGP Video: ATI All-In-Wonder 8500 DV
Driver pkg installed: wxp-w2k-catalyst-8-03-040610a-016126c
Other ATI software: mmc-9-1-0-0 (and the dao-mdac)
PCI Video: Nvidia GeForce 2 MX/MX 400
Driver pkg installed: 61.77, 07/15/2004
Windows XP Professional with sp-1 and all updates installed
UltraMon version 2.4.21.0 installed
I depend on this system (which I built myself *gloat gloat*) everyday as an indendant video producer. It is my livelyhood. Right now I cannot afford a new video card so please dont suggest it (unless you would want to trade my Nvidia pci card for your ATI pci card). A heart felt thank you along with a steady stream of butt-kisses shall be your reward for any help you can offer me.
IDigPhish</ul>
4 years ago
im running on an nvidia GeForce FX 5200. i have an LCD monitor hooked up to the dvi input and a crt hooked up to the VGA. however, only the crt will display. i tried playing around with the MultiView set up but nothing seems to work. help please?
shao
4 years ago
ok.. lets see....
i'm kind of been with ati lately so my nvidia is a bit rusty..
first, do you see the two monitors in the Display Properties > Settings area? or just one?
second, when you go into the advanced settings/nvidia control panel; is there any options for clone or spanning of monitors?
thirdly, what os are you running?
here is a good link to realtimesoft's faq on multi monitor setups.. (they make ultramon)
http://www.realtimesoft.com/multimon/faq.asp
i'll check back in a bit...
peace
seamonkey420
4 years ago
My poor little noggen is mush from another round of "How do I get this crap to work?".
Basic problem... I have two seperate video cards for (as SeaMonkey describes) my cant-live-without-it dual monitor setup. One is the ATI All-In-Wonder 8500 DV (in the agp slot) and the other is the Nvidia GeForce 2 MX/MX 400 (in the pci slot). YES, I NOW KNOW THAT VIDEO CARDS FROM THE SAME COMPANY IS SUGGESTED!
I have had this setup for about two years and it has done reasonobly well for me but it has never quite worked 'perfect'. I had to live with limitations such as having to disable control panels (just using the driver on one card or the other instead of using the driver and the mfg's software). Somehow Ive always been able to come up with ways to use each mfg's most recent drivers and software work despite the fact that each card obviously hates the other! It has been getting more difficult with each new driver release to bring peace to my 'puter.
Two weeks ago I was bored and started to play around. Bad idea. See, with the ATI card in the AGP slot it takes seniority over the Nvidia card and I figure it is quite important to ensure that the ATI Control Panel software is working properly (especially since I need the Open GL and Direct 3D stuff to work with graphics programs like 3D Studio Max (http://www.discreet.com/) and Avid Xpress (http://avid.com/products/xpress/). Now, I just cant get this to work.
Heres some info about my system:
AMD Athlon XP 2400+ processor (runs about 1.99 GHz)
512 MB DDR Ram
AGP Video: ATI All-In-Wonder 8500 DV
Driver pkg installed: wxp-w2k-catalyst-8-03-040610a-016126c
Other ATI software: mmc-9-1-0-0 (and the dao-mdac)
PCI Video: Nvidia GeForce 2 MX/MX 400
Driver pkg installed: 61.77, 07/15/2004
Windows XP Professional with sp-1 and all updates installed
UltraMon version 2.4.21.0 installed
I depend on this system (which I built myself *gloat gloat*) everyday as an indendant video producer. It is my livelyhood. Right now I cannot afford a new video card so please dont suggest it (unless you would want to trade my Nvidia pci card for your ATI pci card). A heart felt thank you along with a steady stream of butt-kisses shall be your reward for any help you can offer me.
IDigPhish</ul>
are u back up or what???
4 years ago
ok.. lets see....
i'm kind of been with ati lately so my nvidia is a bit rusty..
first, do you see the two monitors in the Display Properties > Settings area? or just one?
second, when you go into the advanced settings/nvidia control panel; is there any options for clone or spanning of monitors?
thirdly, what os are you running?
</ul>
i only see one monitor.
there are options but none of them work
xp pro
thanks man
4 years ago
hmm...
are you using a dvi to vga adapter for the lcd? if so, try flipping around the monitors (ie hook up lcd to vga, and vga to dvi-vga adapter).
i know i had a prob with my compaq monitor and it wouldn't work on the normal vga output with my other lcd on the dvi-vga adapter. So i had to hook up my lcd to the main crt/vga output and then my compaq to the adapter..
hope that made some sense.. haha...
also.
have you tried to use each output, seperately?
hook up the crt to the dvi (again, only if your using the adapter and the lcd isn't an actual dvi input one..)
hope that helps!
peace
seamonkey420
4 years ago
4 years ago
have you been able to use the LCD byitself?
if not, try checking in your BIOS during startup to see if there's a DVI or LCD monitor option.
Also, does the Nvidia Control Panel have any DVI based settings?
peace
seamonkey420
4 years ago
the panel does have dvi based settings but only when the crt is unplugged
4 years ago
I followed the directions to set up dual monitor successfully, but now I have a question. Eventhough the screen now extends to two monitors (side-by-side), the windows task bar does not. It is only found on the left monitor. Is there a way to extend the task bar to the right monitor so that when I open lots of windows I can have the taskbar buttons extend to the second monitor as well?
Thank you in advance
Min
4 years ago
windows won't extend the taskbar over... again.. you'll need a thirdparty program for such things...
like i've said before, i personally call Ultramon GOD as a multi-monitor utility.... it has a smart taskbar option that will add a taskbar to the other monitors and lets you show: windows on that screen in it, or all monitor windows.. and the wallpaper option.. drool.. lets you have two different wallpapers or one wallpaper spanned across the monitors.. plus theres the screensaver that lets you run two diffferent screensavers, a different one on each monitor, some limitatoins but pretty cool!
as for the lcd...
hmm...
i'm still a bit conufsed on a few things...
1. your video card has a dvi and crt outputs, correct?
2. your lcd works when it is plugged into the dvi output (only monitor connected), but does not work with the crt plugged in (the crt works only)?
3. you do not see two monitors in your Control Panel > Display Settings > Settings tab ?
4. there are no options in the nvidia control panel for "span" or "clone" mode when both monitors are hooked up?
ok.. so for somethings to try...
when you hook up the monitors, you have to reboot your pc with them plugged in adn turned on for windows to know they are there initially..
contact nvidia/your graphics card manufacturers tech support.. you might have a defective card or they might know some model specific tips....
hope that helps a bit more.. hehe..
peace
seamonkey420
4 years ago
2. your lcd works when it is plugged into the dvi output (only monitor connected), but does not work with the crt plugged in (the crt works only)? yes
3. you do not see two monitors in your Control Panel > Display Settings > Settings tab ? no i do not
4. there are no options in the nvidia control panel for "span" or "clone" mode when both monitors are hooked up? there are but they dont do anything
apparently nvidia doesnt do end user support, and ive been contacting sony about it but they are really dumb.
thanks for all the effort btw.
4 years ago
So I finally talked him into getting us a new computer (got a Dell for about $1000) - before that he couldn't even play Flight Sim because we still had Windows 95, ugh.
Anyway, as a surprise, I went out and bought a second monitor because we were reading about how you can have that with Flight Sim (and with XP). I got a good deal (I think) on a monitor from Office Max (normally $140, on sale for like $80). But now my question is---how do I hook this up? I am guessing I need to buy another video card? I called Dell and they said I'd need a "dual" video card which would be about $100-$200. I'm trying to go for the cheapest card possible (as this is just a second monitor and won't be used all the time).
What's the best option for finding out what kind of card I need? Can I just walk into a store and easily find what I am looking for and install myself without too many hours of trying? I just am doing this by myself and I don't want to screw it up big time.
Any thoughts/comments/ideas would be greatly appreciated! Thanks!
4 years ago
so a flight sim and multiple monitors.. (very cool, i did this with MS Combat Flight Sim)....
The main thing here is to get a video card that can display overlays on the secondary output (basically any newer geforce or radeon card..)..
the main prob in the past with dual monitor gaming was being able to display full screen on both...
i'd suggest checking out this place for more info, i believe they have a FAQ about mulitpile monitor gaming.
http://www.ultramon.com
wait.. haha.. just what your trying to do...
http://flyawaysimulation.com/postt2436.html
this site has lots of flight sim related questions...
hope that gives ya a start..!
by the way, you rock! if my gf did that for me.. i'd melt.. in my geeky pool of digital ooze... haha :-)
peace
seamonkey420
4 years ago
4 years ago
(Sorry for the repeat post!!)
4 years ago
I just reinstalled my Win XP and now I cannot do that anymore. After replacing the drivers, the cable, the connector, and even the card, I found out that XP actually recognizes my TV and I can swith between my TFT and TV without problems. The problem is that in 'Display Properties/Settings' I only have 1 single monitor where I used to have primary/secondary.
Is there a way to tell XP that I have both monitors on at the same time? The graphics driver has no problem with it. It won't let me force detection og TV because it's already detected and if I boot up with the monitor unplugged, XP uses my TV as primary device.
Hope someone can help me because it's really bugging me.
4 years ago
I'm having the same problem as cebollo, Mr Seamonkey...
My nVidia software will allow me to switch between my analog TFT and my digital TFT (both the same make, but my GeForce 5600 has a VGA and DVI-D output, so I use one for each) but only recognises that a single monitor is present.
Device Manager and Display (Settings) on XP Pro also only display one...
Please persevere with this. nVidia fob off to the manufacturer (unlike ATI it seems...) but Sony haven't responded, neither have Microsoft...
Thank you good sir (and to your girlfriend for giving you time to be so supportive...!!)
4 years ago
It would be very much appreciated. Thank you.
4 years ago
4 years ago
4 years ago
I'm running a 64MB ATI Radeon 9000.
The thing is, using ATI's multi-screen function, the taskbar and all maximized programs span across both screens, making centered webpages (ie, Yahoo) really ugly. Plus, maximizing videos is nasty as well.
The funny thing is that Windows doesn't seem to recognize the fact that I have multiple screens plugged in. I don't see the checkbox of "Extend my Windows desktop to this monitor", nor do I see numbered grey boxes representing my 2 screens at the "Display Properties --> Settings" page. I can extend the desktop with the ATI drivers, but it considers it one 2560x1024 desktop, instead of two 1280x1024 desktops.
So I think my main problem is getting Windows 2000 itself to recognize that I have 2 monitors plugged in (one through the VGA plug, and one through the DVI plug)... Anyone have any insight on this?
3 years ago
I'm having a problem with an nVidia Geforce 6200 PCI-E card. I have a Sharp TV hooked up to the DVI output and a Samsung LCD monitor hooked to the analog output. I can configure it to use the Samsung as the primary and the TV as the secondary and use all the features. However when I shutdown the pc and then turn it on later the card seems to lose all it's settings and tries to make the TV the primary monitor and both the TV and the monitor get a message saying that it's out of range. In order to fix this I have to unplug the DVI cable from the TV and restart the computer. Then once it's booted successfully I can plug the TV back in and set it back up again. It works as long as I only restart my computer, but if I do a shutdown the next time I power up my computer I get the out of range message. It doesn't seem that anyone is paying too much attention to this forum, but if you have any suggestions I'd appreciate it.
3 years ago
SeaMonkey420 would be likely to help you...
Try sending him a PM.
Davak
3 years ago
I'm on win xp pro.
3 years ago
I'm having a problem with an nVidia Geforce 6200 PCI-E card. I have a Sharp TV hooked up to the DVI output and a Samsung LCD monitor hooked to the analog output. I can configure it to use the Samsung as the primary and the TV as the secondary and use all the features. However when I shutdown the pc and then turn it on later the card seems to lose all it's settings and tries to make the TV the primary monitor and both the TV and the monitor get a message saying that it's out of range. In order to fix this I have to unplug the DVI cable from the TV and restart the computer. Then once it's booted successfully I can plug the TV back in and set it back up again. It works as long as I only restart my computer, but if I do a shutdown the next time I power up my computer I get the out of range message. It doesn't seem that anyone is paying too much attention to this forum, but if you have any suggestions I'd appreciate it.</ul>
andy,,, how many monitors can you plug working at the same time with that 6200 card ? 3 ?
3 years ago
2 years ago
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I've just installed dual monitor view using a geforce 7300 on an amd 64 athalon 3500, running on Windows XP sp1, and I've got a dilemma . When using programs such as aim (aol instant messenger) and internet explorer i have no problems, but when im doing something interactive like a video game such as Counter Strike on one monitor and aim on the 2nd monitor, my counter strike minmizes when i click on my aim window. Is there anything i can do to prevent it from minmizing ? Please help !
Thank you soo much
Masha
1 year ago
Thank you for this excellent post.
I have some problem, please can you help me. I have HP laptop (video card Mobile Intel (R) 945GM Express), is this compatible with multiple monitors view, as this option is unavailable in my slide show set up?
I'm using PowerPoint 2007 and Windows XP
Thanks a lot
1 year ago
4 months ago